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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 16 Feb 93 Volume 11 : Issue 37
Today's Topics:
[*] AliasMenu 1.1
[*] churchill-quotes.hqx
[*] Disk Rejunevator
[*] gifwatcher2.1.2.sit
[*] SerePlot 2.0 Demo-pt1
[*] Shutdown Movie version 1.0.1
[*] skynet_fc_setting12.sea
[*] slick-willie-countdown.hqx
[*] StuffIt Lite 3.0.5
[*] TidBITS#163/Modems
[*] TidBITS#164/15-Feb-93
32-bit vs 24-bit color
3D buttons: Greg's Buttons vs NewLook - IN THE LAB - 8-)
6.0.8L needed
About the pb 165c...
Apple's Developer Services Discussion
Apple II GS ROM01 REPLACEMENT
BITnet file (IEKP898.NOTE)
BookEndz Docking Stations for Powerbooks?
Books Recommended for Courseware Development in HyperCard ???
Bug in finder (small) (R)
Cataloging Tools For the Mac
Cataloging Utility for Art Work?
Centris 610 - no software power off?
Change of address for Windows (the mac cp) author
Crippled '040 (R)
Cyclone Summary
Dead mice switches
DeskWriter 3.1 Driver Problems (C)
Deskwriter Print
DW Drivers and Memory
Dynatek HD
Exporting EPS to MS Dos
FKeyManager trouble (Q)
FullWrite
Getting ESC key without CLEAR key as well? etco
Greg's Button's vs. New Look (again...)
How to add a second hard drive "INSIDE" a Mac IIx?
Info-Mac Digest V11 #36
KIWI Computers
LC III upgrade
LC to LC III upgrade is CHEAP! (in Oz. anyway...)
looking for money-related Finder Icons...
Mac Aquarium kit? Where Can I get?
Mac as Xterm at home? (Q)
MacDraw contact sheet maker?
Mac GUI front ends for AT&T Mail, EasyLink, or MCI Mail?
Mac TCP/IP available where?
Mactcp/Q700 and builtin ether (A)
MacWeek Subscription
MacWEEK Subscription Address (A)
MacWorld Awards Survey & FullWrite
Memory and DW Drivers con't
Menuette 1.1 control panel : Comments
Miracle pianosystem
Modems and a Mac SE
MPW Fortran?
Nuntius doesn't work on Quadra?
OmegaSane MacWeek Info
Omega SANE resources: where to get them?
Passport Producer demo needed (Q)
PC ImagewriterLQ driver
Presentation ideas
Printer protection!
Replace LC040 with 040 on Centris 610, 650
ResEdit code documetation type?
Retrospect Remote and Restarting Mac
SAKA Awards '93
Single copies only (A)
some questions regarding apple's new ergonomic keyboard
Stack on ancient greek and hebrew
System 7 & postscript files (Q)
System 7.1 and WorldScript Extensions (A)
White Knight & HP Terminal Settings
Word 5.1 Find File Hack
Word Mac List
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 93 22:35:46 -0500
From: ccmlh@it.bu.edu (Mark Hayes)
Subject: [*] AliasMenu 1.1
[From the help text:]
AliasMenu adds menus to the Finder. These menus work exactly like the Apple
Menu: they may contain any kind of items (applications, documents,
desk accessories, folders, aliases, control panels...).
Selecting an item in a menu will open it, as if you had double-clicked it.
The menu titles can be replaced by icons, which you'll find useful if
you have a small screen.
AliasMenu needs System version 7.0 or higher. It doesn't modify the System
or the Finder in any way...
AliasMenu will create a new folder within your System Folder, named
"AliasMenu Items", and a subfolder named "1.Alias" within it.
You can add up to 8 more subfolders (for a total of 9) which will become
as many new menus....
Shareware, $20. Author: Benoit Widemann
[Archived as /info-mac/util/alias-menu-11.hqx; 24K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 14:48:12 EST
From: "Paul D. Bain" <pdbain@ufcc.ufl.edu>
Subject: [*] churchill-quotes.hqx
To all Winston Churchill fans, historians, and seekers of sage wisdom and
wit:
This compressed file contains two Macintosh files of quotes from Sir Winston
Spencer Churchill. The first file contains the quotes alone. The second file
contains the quotes and the background (or context) in which they were made.
I do hope that you all will enjoy these files.
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/winston-churchill-quotes.hqx; 12K]
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 93 15:57:21 -0800
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: [*] Disk Rejunevator
Disk Rejuvenator is designed to be a simple utility for putting some life back
into your disk. It does so by examining some common attributes of your disk
and
correcting those that are in need of correction.
Disk Rejuvenator requires System 6.0.4 or later, and System 7 users
additionally
can enjoy an easy 'drag and drop' interface.
Disk Rejuvenator is 32-bit clean, '040 cache and virtual memory compatible and
even Apple event aware.
[Archived as /info-mac/util/disk-rejuvenator.hqx; 42K]
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 93 20:26:02 EST
From: "Kerry Shetline" <shetline@BBN.COM>
Subject: [*] gifwatcher2.1.2.sit
This desk accessory will let you view GIF images while you are
downloading them. Save online time by cancelling images you don't want.
This program also has a dithered black-and-white mode for viewing GIFs
on a monochrome system. New version has full GIF87a compliance, GIF89a
capability, faster decompression for most files. Dithered color, save
images as PICT files and start-up screens, scale, rotate, invert colors.
2.1.2 adds new way to view interlaced images, fixes MS Word-mangled
documentation.
[Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/gif-watcher-212.hqx; 63K]
------------------------------
Date: 11 Feb 93 17:18:47 EST
From: Will Rabinovich <71106.1435@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: [*] SerePlot 2.0 Demo-pt1
This is a demonstration version of SerePlot 2.0 an application for technical
X-Y graphing and data analysis that can be scripted with Apple Events.
SerePlot supports the Apple Event Object Model and can be controlled with such
applications as UserLand Frontier, AppleScript and upcoming versions of
Hypercard. Support for the Core, Table and Quickdraw suites of Apple Events is
provided. In addition two custom suites, the Plot suite and Engine suite,
provide objects for graphing and data analysis. Every significant feature of
the program can be controlled with Apple Events.
Features of SerePlot include linear and nonlinear curve fitting to user
defined functions, Fourier transforms, smoothing, interpolation, integration,
peak finding and more. A set of interactive tools for on screen data analysis
allows integration, differentiation, point finding and other operations to be
performed on screen using the mouse.
Plots are publication quality, text fonts and styles may be mixed and
superscripts and subscripts are supported.
The demo has a Frontier install file with several example scripts including
interapplication communication via Apple Events between SerePlot and Excel 4.0
and automated analysis of spectral data with smoothing, peak finding and
integration. Two Frontier "droplets" are provided. Droplets are applications
that contain scripts that run when a file or folder is dragged onto them. One
droplet opens every data file in a folder, plots the data and performs a
linear fit.
The Apple Event demos can be run using Frontier Runtime 2.0, the shareware
version of Frontier. Locations where Runtime 2.0 can be downloaded from are
listed.
The demo does not save, and features have a limited number of uses in a
session.
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/sere-plot-20.hqx; 536K]
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 00:19:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Hustvedt <hustvedt@world.std.com>
Subject: [*] Shutdown Movie version 1.0.1
Here is the blurb for the digests:
"-----------------------
What is Shutdown Movie?
----------------------
Shutdown Movie is the previously unimplemented companion to QuickTime's
built-in "Startup Movie" feature. When installed, ShutDown Movie plays a
movie when you Shutdown your system. Shutdown Movie requires System 7 or
greater, and QuickTime.
Version 1.0.1 fixes a few minor bugs."
Thanks...........
-Eric
[Archived as /info-mac/ex/shutdown-movie-101.hqx; 5K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 10:34:46 EST
From: msimpson@loop.ausom.oz.au (Matthew Simpson)
Subject: [*] skynet_fc_setting12.sea
This is the latest version of the skyNET settings file. skyNET Australia runs
on a Mac IIvi, with 3 Hard Disks and 2 CD-ROM drives. It has multiple lines,
each with a PSI COMStation 5, all speeds upto 14,400 bps with MNP error
correction and compression. skyNET currently has links to FidoNet, InterNet
and
other First Class systems in Australia and Internationally. Also Fax send and
receive capabilities. The skyNET number is 61 (3) 562 2624, Fax 61 (3) 562
5884. Copyright @ 1993 skyNET Australia.
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/skynet-settings.hqx; 284K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 14:50:13 EST
From: "Paul D. Bain" <pdbain@ufcc.ufl.edu>
Subject: [*] slick-willie-countdown.hqx
For all Dittoheads and right-minded people:
This is a Hypercard program counting the days until Slick Willie's departure.
A
truly entertaining and informative program.
I downloaded it from America Online and am relaying it to the internet world.
[Archived as /info-mac/card/slick-willie-countdown.hqx; 18K]
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 93 15:55:14 -0800
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: [*] StuffIt Lite 3.0.5
This archive contains all the files needed to install StuffIt Lite version
3.0.5. It is recommended that all users of previous versions upgrade to the
3.0.5 version. This is a complete installation of StuffIt Lite, and does not
require that you have previously used a version of StuffIt Lite.
StuffIt Lite 3.0.5 adds some new features and corrects some conflicts.
--------
StuffIt Lite is a sleek, easy to use application that provides compression,
encryption, and archiving capabilities. You can use it to compress and combine
infrequently used files into archives to free up disk space. Archives can be
stored on floppies for backup. For faster transmission, send StuffIt archives
to
your friends using your modem or over a network. Most electronic bulletin
boards ask you to use StuffIt archives so everyone saves money and time when
downloading your files. StuffIt Lite can help you create and manipulate
StuffIt
archives easily and efficiently.
StuffIt Lite is the upgrade to StuffIt Classic, the industry standard for
archiving on the macintosh. This upgrade significantly improves compression
and
decompression time and efficiency, is easier to use, and contains a bunch of
new features. System 7.0 savvy, 32-bit clean, 040 compatible.
[Archived as /info-mac/util/stuffit-lite-305.hqx; 608K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 21:42:46 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#163/Modems
TidBITS#163/Modems
In this special issue, we present our general modem discussion (at
least enough so you can judge among modems that have impressive
sounding, but misleading, specs) and review two popular
v.everything modems, the Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA and
the Supra's SupraFAXModem v.32bis. They're both inexpensive,
capable, and reliable (although that's not to say that other
modems may not be equally as good).
Topics:
Fast Modems Rule
Modem Speed
Actual Connections
Modem Software
Extra Features
Support
Fax Galore
FaxMania
Conclusions
Details
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-163.etx; 25K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 21:38:21 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#164/15-Feb-93
TidBITS#164/15-Feb-93
This issue ranges widely, from a warning about our recently
published ATM hack to a look at a pending lawsuit against
Microsoft for thoroughly unpleasant behavior. Also check out
reviews of four Internet books, the free Macintosh Hardware
System Update and a MODE32-like Enabler, an upgrade to
AppleShare 3.0.1, CE's Test Drive program for user groups,
humorous notes from Macworld SF, and an open letter concerning
Apple's questionable policy on repair parts.
Topics:
MailBITS/15-Feb-93
Font Folder Hack Warning
CE Test Drives User Groups
LaserWriter Pro 600 Upgraded
Apple's Unfair Parts Policy
AppleShare 3.0.1 Upgrade
Macworld Quotes
Apple Software Enhancements
DOS 6.0 and Compression?
Internet Books, In Review
Reviews/15-Feb-93
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-164.etx; 28K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 22:59:25 EST
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: 32-bit vs 24-bit color
My understanding is that 32 bit color is actually 16.7 million colors
(2~24th power) with the last 8 bits used as an "alpha channel" for
transparency, etc. Yet one of my students wants to know why so many
people want 32-bit color monitors if the Mac only displays 24-bit
color. One or both of us is missing something. Anyone care to
tell what that may be? Thanks, Pete Tamas
Gnome@VM.Temple.EDU, Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 17:55 GMT
From: Simon Shum <SJS2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject: 3D buttons: Greg's Buttons vs NewLook - IN THE LAB - 8-)
Well, the major graphic design issue facing all Mac users at present is of
course whether you want your 3D buttons provided by the long standing
Greg's Buttons (2.4) or the upstart NewLook (1.3), which claims to be "more
stable" though not having "as many features as Greg's buttons" (rebutted
vehemently by a certain Greg Landauer ;-)
The stage is set for an entirely objective review (entirely impossible in an
area like graphic design, but that didn't stop me).
(Monitor: 21" Apple greyscale only I'm afraid)
>> Quality of '3D-ness'
Disappointingly, the actual appearance of NewLook is identical to Greg's
Buttons - maybe at the pixel level they're different, but it's the eye that
counts! I'd hoped for some innovation - there are so many variations on the
theme now that somebody must be able to devise something more interesting for
the Mac than Miscrosoft/Windows buttons :] :-P _I_ look forward to being
able to choose from a button palette...
GB provides a basic option for bevelled lettering on the button - makes it
look
like the characters are actually stamped into the button. You have to have it
in NL. Both look the same. Could be improved though.
>> 'In-Out' action on pressing the button
Hmm, tricky one here. It may be bias (I've been using GB for a while now) but
I
reckon the action on pressing is slightly slower in GB - BUT the response by
the system (closing a dialogue box say) is just as fast - i.e. the fact that
NL
seems to flash the button when quickly clicked doesn't buy anything - and you
lose the visual IN/OUT effect. It reminds me of GB 2.2 as I recall.
Incidentally, early GBs were noticeably slow in responding to pressing, and I
don't know if this problem persists for slower machines than mine (IIci).
>> Check boxes and radio buttons
NL gives you big friendly ticks in your check boxes, and a big splodge on the
radio button to show it's marked - too big for me. GB could offer a friendlier
tick option than at present, but the radio buttons are fine - more refined
I'd say.
>> Crashability
Well for me at least, no difference - both ran without a hitch.
>> GB's xtras
1. GB offers the option of greying your menu bar, menus, and Finder windows.
Frivolous huh? Well, purely aesthetic for the first two, but if having a PhD
in
human-computer interaction counts for anything |;-), trust me when I say that
having the Finder windows distinguished in a pale grey (or coloured if you are
able) really helps parse the display visually, especially if you have a lot of
windows open like me. You can immeditately see where to click to get to the
Finder, useful if there's no desktop showing, or if you're in the middle of a
large screen and can't be bothered moving to the side. I missed them as soon
as
I rebooted with NL, but had actually forgotten this feature - shows how much
it
was part of my visual environment.
Oh yeah, you can also colour your alert boxes - a darker grey adds to the
distinctiveness when it pops up, which might be useful if something unexpected
happened and your attention was on the periphery of the screen - but not
exactly crucial.
2. You can change the system font on buttons and menus to a thin or thick sans
serif font, but I don't like either.
3. You can colour small Finder icons if you use that View - I don't.
>> VERDICT
If you want a basic 3D buttonizer, there's not really much between them.
For me, Greg's Buttons 2.4 has better graphic finish than New Look 1.3,
plus additional features which are worth having both aesthetically and
functionally.
GB has a massively larger user testing base, and I've had no problems with it
for a year or so now. Something more exciting than NL is needed to mount a
serious challenge.
Simon Shum, HCI Grp (Psychology), U.York, York, YO1 5DD, UK. +44(0)904-433165
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 11:39:54 EST
From: Arif <SHAIKHA%DUVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: 6.0.8L needed
I apologize if you are reading this posting again. I wasn't sure if the
mailer
in my unix system sent the mail properly.
After searching the net for six hours, I've decided to ask my fellow
nette
rs for help. If anyone knows where I could get a copy of system 6.0.8L please
send E-mail back to shaikha@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu.
For those of you who don't know what 6.0.8L is, it is system six for
those
Macs that only use system seven. I have a PowerBook, and I have this one
appl
ication that only works properly in system six. It seems it doesn't like
multi
finder. Anyway, if anyone could point the way, I'll be greatful.
Thanks in advance.........
.........Arif
------------------------------
Date: 12 Feb 93 21:40:51 GMT
From: bmor@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Brad Morris)
Subject: About the pb 165c...
I played with the 165c. The screen does indeed seem to suffer none of the
shadow effects that plagued the 160. The cursor does still submarine
(disappear when moved quickly). I did not do anything with animation, but
the screen did look amazingly solid and had very nice color.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 02:09:01 EST
From: gitlow@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: Apple's Developer Services Discussion
There has been much discussion of late regarding Apple's services
to developers. My company, Symposia, creates software for the medical
marketplace. We have been developers since 1985 so have seen many
changes in Apple's treatment of developers/partners over the years.
I have little issue with Apple's pricing; though we no longer get
the 50% discount that everyone admits to have received in the early
days, neither does Apple have the profit margins that they once had. Once
Apple decided to reduce their margins, it was clear that the 50% pricing
to developers had reached its end as well.
I do take issue, however, with Apple's TERRIBLE delivery service to
developers. I have customers counting on me to let them know whether
our software will run with the latest equipment. I have programmers
counting on me to provide them with the latest equipment so that they
can write software making use of the latest capabilities.
We ordered Duos when they were first added to the price list in October.
Our order, with cashier's check attached, went out by Express Mail on
the first allowable day. Long after the Duos were sitting in piles at
our local dealership, long after the Duos were sitting in piles at the
nearby campus store, and long after all our customers had asked us
whether our software would run on their own Duos, our Duos arrived --
almost three months after our order had been placed.
Our AppleCD 300's, which we ordered the moment they were made available,
still haven't arrived. And since most of our products are on CD-ROM,
this is a vitally important item to us.
Apple's Developer Services has come a long way over the years; the
amount of information with which we are provided has grown considerably.
Apple's overall pricing structure, while not as good as it could be,
is still acceptable given the number of computers we buy strictly for
testing purposes (we try to buy at least once of every CPU). But if
we don't have the equipment, our customers are certain not to be able
to get adequate technical support from us -- they have the new systems
long before we do.
--- Stuart Gitlow, M.D.
--- Harvard Medical School
--- Symposia, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 11:45:12 +0100
From: Domont@deso.ucl.ac.be (domont)
Subject: Apple II GS ROM01 REPLACEMENT
I have got an Apple II gs that I want to use as a text-entry terminal in
conjunction with an appleshare server. I've tried to run gs Os 5.0 on it
but it does not work because my IIgs is an "un-upgraded" one. Where could I
find a ROM 01 and vgu replacement knowing that apple does not support the
II gs in Belgium.
FR. Domont
Centre de Droit de la consommation
Universite Catholique de Louvain
Domont@deso.ucl.ac.be
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 23:22:30 CST
From: IEKP898@tjuvm.rice.edu
Subject: BITnet file (IEKP898.NOTE)
Date: 15 Feb 93 00:21:02 EST
From: Matthew Mitchell <IEKP898 AT TJUVM>
To: <INFO-MAC AT RICE>
Subject: outdated MacCompress???
From: Matthew Mitchell
When decoding some .Z files obtained by FTP from news.answers MacCompress
refused to decode about half the files, citing "This file seems to have
been encoded by a newer version of MacCompress" or something like that.
I am running v 3.2.
Is there a newer verion? or were the files compressed with a different
program and what mac version is compatible?
Howzat|?|
Matthew Mitchell <iekp898@tjuvm.bitnet> or <iekp898@tjuvm.tju.edu>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 02:41 CST
From: trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper)
Subject: BookEndz Docking Stations for Powerbooks?
I remember seeing ads for a BookEndz docking station for the PB160.
Does anyone have one of these? Are the good or a kludge? Is it
worth the trouble/expense? And does it pass through the internal
modem RJ11 AND the modem port DIN8?
email or post
Greg Trimper trimper@edsi.plexus.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 10:03 EST
From: JALLISON@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Books Recommended for Courseware Development in HyperCard ???
I know that there are many books out which cover HyperCard programming, but
i would be interested in gathering a list of those people have found
especially good for learning the skills necessary for courseware
development. I like Goodman's HyperCard Developers Guide, but the version
I have is old(pre 2.0). Please send me your favorite references, and I
will edit the list and post it.
Thanks,
Jim Allison
jallison@VAX.clarku.edu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 10:03 PST
From: COSTELLO@YOOHOO.llnl.gov
Subject: Bug in finder (small) (R)
In Info-Mac Digest V11 #36, ELIOT@cs.umass.EDU writes:
>I just noticed a tiny piece of odd behavior in the Finder (system 7.0.1).
>When a folder window is selected you see the grow icons and the arrows
>>From the scroll bars. If you click on the desktop the arrows and grow icon
>go away and the title bar becomes white - normally.
>
>However, if you double click quickly on the scroll bar and keep clicking as
>you move the mouse onto the desktop the window is not deselected. You
>can now click on the desktop or select a rectangle on the desktop and leave
>the folder window in its "selected" state. Harmless, but odd.
This is also the case in System 7.1. You don't have to double-click, just
click in either of the scrollbars and drag to the desktop. Then, clicking in
the desktop, select a rectangle, etc. will not change the visibility of the
scrollbars from the original window. Subsequent selection of an icon or other
finder window returns everything to normal. It appears that the reason is
that the update is not sent to the window until some mouse event occurrs in
some other window (note, not the desktop).
- Ed
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 1993 16:01:34 -0000
From: sr3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Saravjit Rihal)
Subject: Cataloging Tools For the Mac
URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT
Please, pleasse help me !!
I am in dire need of a cataloging tool for the Mac which will allow me to
investigate the following :
1. filename
2. hierarchy ( files and directories)
3. last modified details
4. file types
5. file size
6. file creator
etc,etc,etc
I have used CatMaker, and thought it to be okay. However, my version crashes
on printing. So any ideas or improved versions and places where I can find
similar tools would be most appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 9:23:42 PST
From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <siegman@sierra.stanford.edu>
Subject: Cataloging Utility for Art Work?
I want a simple cataloging utility to keep track of art work
(mostly PICT files): build and maintain a catalog or index of PICT
files, allow comments or keywords to be attached to each PICT, and
preferably display them as thumbnails. A program that automatically
scanned your disks and built an index (like OnLocation does for text)
would be particularly nice.
Has any one tried Mariah? Or Aldus Access? Any shareware authors
attracted to this problem?
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 1993 02:37:27 -0800
From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Subject: Centris 610 - no software power off?
In article <1993Feb14.211813.5272@nosc.mil>,
schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil (David Schwarze) writes:
>Seth writes...
> Seth, I'm suprised that someone who appears to know a little bit
about
>MAC's doesn't know that MAC'S WITHOUT SOFTWARE SHUTDOWN DO NOT *HAVE* SOCKETS
>IN BACK TO PLUG IN THE MONITOR!!!! Also, you might not be so critical of
>those of us without the "software shutdown" if *you* had to reach behind your
>Mac to turn it AND the monitor (separately) off and on twice a day. It is a
>pain in the butt! I finally went and bought the PowerKey for my LC. I
highly
>recommend it for anyone with a Centris (nobody yet! :)), LC, or compact Mac.
>Not only do I turn off my monitor and computer via Special/shutdown, but my
>modem, DeskWriter, and external hard drive too!
>
David:
The Centris 610 may not have soft power but it is also doesn't have
the "switch in the back=pain in the neck" problem. The power switch
is a little round button on the front. I don't mean to direct this
at you, but ... I wish people who haven't even seen these machines
would stop ranting about them.
I do want to thank you for your endorsement of the Power Key. I
shall get one [now that I know it works on Shut Down as well as
startup] if I can afford that Centris 610 soon and decide I'd rather
have it than a Dell 486L.
Mark Rogowsky
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 09:01:03 -0600
From: bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Change of address for Windows (the mac cp) author
I got the following information while trying to pay for Joachim
Lindenberg's handy control panel which supplies a windows menu item in
applications that don't have it.
>>
From: GER.XSE0010@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Germany - J Lindenberg,IDV)
No, the current address is
Joachim Lindenberg
Postfach 4064
W7500 Karlsruhe 1
Germany
At least our government is slow, therefore here is the address that is valid
starting on July 1st, 1993 (they are changing all ZIP codes):
Joachim Lindenberg
Postfach 4064
76025 Karlsruhe
Germany
Best Regards,
Joachim
>>
Note the email address for him is GER.XSE0010@AppleLink.Apple.COM. It might
me nice to put this in the archive with the control panel, since an old
West German address is in the control panel.
Bryan Walls
bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 14:30:09 -0500
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Crippled '040 (R)
Debra Wallace writes:
>This raises a few questions in my mind:
>1. Is that really ALL the upgrade is?! And if so, what is the difference
>in price between the Apple upgrade and just buying a '040 chip? (If that
>can be done.)
Well, there is no Apple upgrade as I have stated earlier. I put a
little too much faith in the information from MacWeek. As for the price
of a full '040 chip, I have no idea?
>2. If you could just buy the '040 chip (w/FPU), what would you need to
>do the swap yourself? (Assuming you wouldn't mind voiding the warranty.)
Something that would allow you to remove the LC040, like a chip
remover.
>3. What is the difference bewtween the die size and the size of the pin
>set?
The "die" is the piece of silicon that the transistors for the chip
are sit into. It it one of the major factors in the cost of the chip.
The pin set is just the connection mechanism between the CPU and the
Logic Board. Motorola, wisely, chose to put the LC040, with the smaller
die size, on the same pin interface as the full '040.
-Hades
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 1993 05:56:11 GMT
From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: Cyclone Summary
Code named Cyclone, these two machines will probably be powered by
40mhz and 25mhz 68040 chips, and will use a full 32-bit architecture (no more
24-bit mode). The high end will have 3 NuBus slots (conforming to the full
NuBus 90 specifications) and will be expandable to 128mb of RAM (72 pin
SIMMS),
while the low-end will only have one NuBus slot, and will accept up to 68mb of
RAM.
What makes these machines so unique (and allows them to be called the
Macintosh III) is their architecture. Direct Memory Access will be supported
on
all the I/O ports, including Ethernet, SCSI, Serial, and NuBus slots. Also on
the motherboard will be an AT&T 3210 DSP, which will allow for 16-bit digital
sound, Casper voice recognition, Telephony (voice mail), digital and analog
(RGB, S-Video, and Composite) video-in and video-out, plus there will be a
digital video expansion slot (probably for even higher performance video).
Because of the onboard DSP chip, no modem is needed with the new machine. Just
plug the new "Modem Port" (not serial) into an adapter for your local
telephone
system (Bell, ISDN, etc.).
The new system software that will be included in the machine will
support all the new features, including SCSI-DMA (perhaps this will benefit
Mac IIfx owners?).
Of course, this will be "the fastest Mac ever."
Rajiv A. Manglani
rajiv@athena.mit.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 07:47:14 -0600
From: vellek@telesphere.wustl.edu (Mark Vellek, M.D.)
Subject: Dead mice switches
Well, after paying little attention to the previous discussions, I now am
faced with a partially failed microswitch for my IIsi mouse. It still
understands a "click" but doesn't have the tactile feedback any more. If
someone is buying a boatload of switches, I'd be interested in taking one
off your hands...
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 09:27 WET
From: "Alun J. Carr" <AJCARR%ccvax.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: DeskWriter 3.1 Driver Problems (C)
Well, I'm pleased to see other people having problems with their
DeskWriter drivers (actually, I'd be more pleased if none of us
were having problems). To the list of problems add:
* Misaligned right-hand-side of text in Word with fractional
widths turned on
* Horizontally misaligned subscripts and superscripts in Word with
fractional widths turned on
* Occasional printing of characters at 72dpi in `one-off'
documents (using TrueType)
* Printing of entire pages of characters (TrueType fonts) at
72dpi when printing multiple copies (first few print OK, rest
print at 72dpi---HP Print Monitor percentage of printing also
goes negative)
* Out of memory errors when printing from Aldus Intellidraw on
an LC 10/80 with DayStar PowerCache, but not with LCII 4/40 with
no accelerator.
* TrueType fonts print larger and/or bolder with driver 3.1
than 2.x
* Problems with disappearing objects in ClarisWorks graphics
documents (visible in CW, invisible on printout)
These same problems are evident in the DeskWriter C 2.0 driver
for our DWC (looks like common core code for DWC 2.0 and DW 3.1,
anyhow).
For myself (but not my research group) the problems with Word
have gone away (I've abandoned Word in favour of AMS-LaTeX), but
that doesn't mean there aren't problems with the DW/DWC drivers.
I used to associate HP with `Rolls--Royce'-type quality products
(certainly my old HP calculators are), but after my experiences
with the DW/DWC on the Mac, and a Vectra/Measurement Coprocessor
which we use for controlling an X-ray diffractometer (Vectra was
DOA and the HP BASIC system on the Measurement Coprocessor has
some pretty awful `quirks'), I feel I have to revise my
opinions.
Surely a company that produces some of the highest-performance
workstations around can put together something as simple as a
printer driver, preferably one that uses Apple's Print Monitor,
etc.
There, I feel better now.
Alun
A. J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland.
Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie or ajcarr@ollamh.ucd.ie
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 12:15:10 CST
From: PULLMANN@TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Deskwriter Print
Hi, Scott. I meant to reply to your posting last week about the print
quality of your Deskwriter printer. The weekend caught up with me first...
I have been heard making the same complaint you made in your letter.
I saw DW output from several friends' machines before I bought mine
and it was so sharp you could slice bread with it. Mine has not been.
Don't misunderstand, I like the machine very much, but I don't under-
stand why the fuzzy print. It's obviously ink bleeding, you can look
at it closely and see it spreading out from each letter.
I have tried almost every solution in your list without luck.
Paper: I've tried something like 15 or 16 different paper stocks (I met
a really nice guy at a local paper supply house :)), both sides. Some
look better than others but all, from the cheapest copier paper to the
most expensive 100% cotton bond, exhibit the problem to some degree.
My friends' machines print great on almost anything.
Drivers: See my current complaints about other problems with driver 3.1.
In reference to this particular problem, it didn't make any difference
for me--in fact, version 2.0 looks a little better (it seems to use
less ink to form each letter).
Fractional widths: I always use 'em.
Printer Fonts Option: It's always turned off on my machine, for
TT and for PS with ATM.
Q-tip with alcohol: This one I haven't tried. I'm going to, though.
Replace ink cartridge: Five times to date. Hell, I've replaced the
whole *machine* twice, thinking I got a defective one. (The second
return was HP's idea, not mine--they said it was possible I could
have got two bad ones in a row and to try one more time.) My opinion,
for what it's worth, is that here is nevertheless where the problem
lies: the cartridge. I've noticed that the regular carts print much
better than the high-capacity ones, though neither is up to the
sample prints I've seen from other machines. My best guess is that
something in either the current crop of cartridges or the current
ink supply is poor. When I took my friend's cart out of her (older)
DW and used it on my machine it looked just as good as it did on hers.
Well, that's my experience. I'm not sorry I bought the machine--for
the money it's a great deal and it still looks good even with the
ink bleeding problem. But like Scott, I'm puzzled as to why my DW
doesn't provide the same performance as other peoples'.
We'll see what a drunk Q-tip does for it...;).
Pat
Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 11:05:24 CST
From: PULLMANN@TRINITY.EDU
Subject: DW Drivers and Memory
Following up Erich Boldt's message last week postulating the DeskWriter
Driver version 3.1 as the culprit in some memory management problems:
Over the weekend I ran several tests using different versions of the
DW driver on my Plus. Apparently, Erich is right.
I created a very complex Canvas 2.1 document with three or four
postscript fonts, text that had been rotated, flipped, inverted and
stretched, draw objects with heavy manipulations, etc. I double-
checked both the app memory size and the system heap memory size
before printing, both were adequate. Chose DW driver 3.1 and
sent the print. The 'spooling' message came up, the computer ground
away for a long time then crashed with stack/heap collision message.
I rebooted, called up the document again, changed to version 2.0 of
the drivers, and it printed fine.
This experiment was perfectly repeatable--I went through it three or
four times. Every time I tried to print the document with 3.1 it
crashed with the memory error, and every time I used 2.0 there were
no problems. BTW, 2.0 does not display a 'spooling' message. I'd
figured that it was, in fact, going through the same process as
3.1 but simply not putting the info box up on the screen to tell you
so. Now I wonder if it isn't somehow handling printing in a different
manner. (It prints a lot faster, too.)
So my preliminary conclusion is, if you're using a system without a
lot of RAM to begin with and want to print a complex document to a
Deskwriter, don't use driver 3.1. I'm going to call HP today or
tomorrow and see if one of their technical types will talk with me
about this.
Will keep you posted.
Pat
Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 21:42:30 EST
From: leo@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Prof. L.G. Leduc)
Subject: Dynatek HD
Hello netters,
Is anyone familiar with Dynatek hard drives? It is a Canadian company which
specializes in making hard drives from 105 mb to 2.0 gb.
I'm interested in the following models and mechanisms:
Dynatek 105 mb with Fujitsu mechanism and 20 ms access time
Dynatek 210 mb with IBM mechanism and 12.5 ms access time
I would appreciate comments on the company Dynatek and on the mechanisms
employed in their drives. My main concerns are: reliability, service and
noise.
Please respond directly to me.
Thanks a lot.
Leo G. Leduc
leo@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 10:14:50 EST
From: Gene Mayro <V5356E%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Exporting EPS to MS Dos
I have been asked by a friend to create a logo and export it onto a DOS
disk for her to use with her LotusWrite. She can import EPS files into
LotusWrite. I thought, "no problem, I'll make the logo in Freehand 3.1
on the Mac, and export to MSDOS EPS." It hasn't been quite so easy,
though. I can create the logo, and export it, translate it using Apple
File Exchange, but it can't be read by any of the Dos programs I have
(DrawPerfect, Harvard Graphics, Lotus 1-2-3, or imported in
WordPerfect). From all these programs, I get the same error - End of
File encountered." I have tried checking and unchecking all the options
for exporting to MSDOS, but I still get the same error. I have a feeling
that it can be imported into Freehand for the PC, but I don't have
Freehand for the PC, and neither does my friend. Is there an easier (and
better) way of exporting EPS files created on the Mac to PC's?
- Gene Mayro (V5356E@Templevm)
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 1993 06:38:35 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <KROEGER@dornier.de>
Subject: FKeyManager trouble (Q)
Posted last week, no reply, so I try it again:
Help needed....hopefully not a too stupid questions for you experts:
I downloaded <FKey Manager 3.0>, <ResetWindow FKEY> and <MoveWindowFKEY>
>From sumex. When I try to load one of the FKEYs into my system the FKEY
Manager doesn't recognize the FKEYs. The folders in which the FKEYs are
located seem to be empty. I am running system 7.1 on a PB 180.
Any suggestions are very much appreciated.
Thank you !
Hans Kroeger
kroeger@fn.dornier.de
kroeger@foca.dnet.nasa.gov
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 07:53:14 +0200
From: mtrms01%techunix.bitnet@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: FullWrite
I like FullWrite better and better each day I use it. When people come to
me with their word processing woes I always end up saying "Well, if you
were using FullWrite.....no problem". Not only do I endorse the effort to
bring FullWrites untimely demise into the limelight, I think that all those
fervent Mac'ers out there who are dissatisfied with their word processors,
should pluck down the $25 (it was on sale a while back) and take it out for
a spin. You CANNOT beat FullWrite for easy to use and automatic citations.
Period.
Those must be my opinions, I guess....Michael Silverstein
------------------------------
Date: 12 Feb 93 07:55:08 GMT
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki takeuchi)
Subject: Getting ESC key without CLEAR key as well? etco
How can I get the ESC keycode? Getting it as a charcode
make the Clear key and Esc key recognized as the same key.
How can I use the keycodemask for the key event? I think
it is $0000FF00. Doing a BitAnd(thekey,keyCodeMask)
or something similar to that returns garbage.
Thanks a lot!
Kenji Takeuchi (please respond directly, if possible, ASAP)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 20:38:04 +0100
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: Greg's Button's vs. New Look (again...)
Not that anyone cares, but here's my experience & $0.02 worth:
I started using Greg's Button's (I even have a check made out to send the
author!) when I discovered that I could no longer run QUED/M 2.5 (crashed on
opening) probably perhaps because QUED has a "nonstandard" catalogue window
with buttons which then conflicted. In any case, I turned off my copy of
Greg'
s Buttons (version 2.3) and QUED worked again. So I switched to New Look
which I prefered stylistically (at least the check mark) better anyway (for a
while I was using New Look for the buttons and Greg's Buttons for the menus
but then realized that I just couldn't live without QUED).
However, I have just discovered that New Look is incompatible with IntCalc (
which I use more than QUED). Actually, it's a funny incompatibility: I can
use the nummeric keypad on my extended keyboard to enter and manipulate
numbers, but I can't use the mouse (clicking on any button does nothing unless
I disable New Look). "Well," I thought, "so much for that."
However, the latest version of Greg's buttons (2.4) IS now compatible with
both QUED and IntCalc- so I'm back to that (check's in the mail, really!). To
be honest, it's just as likely that IntCalc is incompatible with New Look as
visa versa. But in any case, I can't (yet?) use them together :,(
So there you have it (for whatever it's worth).
Now if only someone could tell me why, in the Finder, all text of the icons on
the desktop suddenly have a yellow background (all I did was turn off New Look
and turn on Greg's buttons). Go figure...
Elliot Bennett
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 19:45 PST
From: "Tony Wong ......" <TWONG@SCUACC.SCU.EDU>
Subject: How to add a second hard drive "INSIDE" a Mac IIx?
Hi,
Can someone tell me how to install a second hard drive at the unused floppy
drive space inside a Mac IIx? I have no problem getting the power cable and
the 50 wire connectors, but don't know how to mount the drive securely in
the machine physically. I try to avoid drilling holes here and there, so I
can restore the machine to its original state if needed.
Thanks.
Tony
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 20:34:36 CST
From: Raph Koster <RKOSTER3@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #36
Does anyone know what's the story on Level 2 postScript drivers? We
have a Level 2 NEC Silentwriter 95 and are eagerly awaiting the promised
speed increase!
-Raph koster
rkoster3@ua1vm.ua.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 11:18:49 CDT
From: Keith Pollok <AEZRAYS%UICVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: KIWI Computers
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has had dealings with KIWI
computers. I am thinking about buying a Mac from them but since they
are 2000+ miles away, I thought I'd check whether their name draws
flames or praise.
Thanks,
Keith Pollok
aezrays@uicvmc.bitnet
------------------------------
Date: 16 Feb 1993 10:53:34 -0500 (EST)
From: 00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Subject: LC III upgrade
In IM #35, Bryan Walls <bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov> said:
>Does it strike others that this may be a less than awesome deal? I have an
>LC 10/40. Using Apples announced suggested retail prices:
>
>Configurations U.S. SRP Availability
>
>Macintosh LC III, 4MB/80MB HD, Keyboard $1,349 Immediate
>Macintosh LC III, 4MB/160MB HD, Keyboard $1,499 Immediate
>
>Macintosh LC III Logic Board Upgrade Kit $599 Immediate
>
>For $599 I would have an LCIII 4/40, and a couple of 4Mb simms (assuming I
>had sense enough not to send them in!). On the other hand, for $1349 I
>could have an LCIII 4/80. Don't you think I could sell an LC 10/40 for more
>than $750? Okay, assuming I could get $200 for the used simms it wouldn't
>look so good, but I would think even an LC2/40 would be worth $750. Or have
>prices dropped more than I think? Just how much is more memory going to
>cost? Living in 4Mb will be rough after being used to 10Mb. I could live
>for a while in 8Mb.
>
>Not really a complaint, just wondering if the upgrade makes sense when the
>retail price is so good. I think street prices will just make the argument
>more true.
Maybe it's not an "awesome" deal, but I think it's great that the
Apple upgrade price is esentially the same price/performance as
the current crop of 33mhz accelerator cards, even at a time when
the accelerator prices have dropped sharply. With the LCIII
upgrade though, you get a lot of improvements and new features,
such as:
-32-bit data path
-Up to 36MB (though there's now a new SIMM design to contend with)
-Separate FPU socket -512k-768k VRAM (can now drive the portrait or
16" monitor)
-Stereo Output
They quote the LC as being "almost twice as fast as the Macintosh
LC II", but it must be faster than that for most applications, as
the 16 bit bus was such an overall performance killer. You can
bet that the LCIII is al least 2X as fast as the LC, and probably
runs neck-n-neck with a 33Mhx accelerator.
Which brings me to my next point. I think the price of the LCIII
upgrade is good enough to force the price of accelerators to drop
even further. So, I think the upgrade should improve your
chances of getting a great deal on an accelerator card, if you go
that route. The Extreme IMPACT is listed in the March MacUser for
$599 for the 32MH (no FPU) version. Surely the apple upgrade is a
much better deal in that even with a sizeable cache on the
accelerator, there is no way the narrow bus won't chop a few
ticks off the performance of the accelerator. (The Daystar card,
for example, usually hits about 80% from the cache and re-reads
the other 20%. According to my rough estimates, the LC III
would likely run neck-n-neck with the LC or LCII+32mhz
accelerator--that is, 32-(32*.20)=25.6) And as I said earlier,
there are no sound, RAM, or video improvements with the
accelerator. Then there's the fact that the accelerator hogs your
_only_ LC slot. The warranty is better on the exceed, though it
covers fewer parts.
I understand your point about the RAM you bought for the LC. Be
glad though, that you did not buy the 2MB SIMMS, as it is useless
in anything but discontinued Macs now! (ci,si,LC,LCII) The 4MB
SIMMs should be easier to sell. As far as the value of an LC
2/40 goes, I'd have to say that $750 isn't far off. Of course
it's worth what you can get, but with the LCII 4/80 selling for
about $1000 new (discount), what would you expect?
--Brian Pickerilll <00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 12:06:35 +1100 (EST)
From: RYANPH@mrl.dsto.gov.au (Philip FX Ryan)
Subject: LC to LC III upgrade is CHEAP! (in Oz. anyway...)
I just called an Authorized Apple Dealer here in Melbourne (Australia) for
pricing on an LC to LCIII upgrade.
The new logic board is $A 1417 (approx $US 950);
the rebate for the old board is $A 547 (approx $US 366).
the net upgrade cost is thus $A 870 (approx $US 584) - i.e. for once,
Apple is charging International customers the same as US customers for an
upgrade.
For all those people whingeing about Apple, and about them annoying
customers who've just bought expensive machines which are now cheap, this
is a real turnaround. The price difference in Australia between the LCII
and LCIII is more than this upgrade price (OK, you get the 80 Meg drive
rather than the 40 Meg). The LC accelerators are _all_ priced well over
$A 1000 (eg Daystar 33 Meg : $A1300 [no fpu]). This LC to LC III upgrade is
the way to go!
Apple: we love you (most of the time :-) )!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 15:33:28 PST
From: Jesse_M._Evans.El_Segundo@xerox.com
Subject: looking for money-related Finder Icons...
Hi, Folks!
I recently bought Quicken for my Mac and I'm disappointed that the app
and files only show generic icons in The Finder. Can someone here point me to
or send me some color Finder Icons that would be more appropriate? (i.e.
Dollar signs or...)
Thanks in advance for anything you send! :-)
Oh, and another thing... I've recently noticed that I cannot reboot
my
IIsi using the keyboard (e.g. Command-Opt or Control-Opt or anything else +
Power Key...) Any ideas as to what may be wrong? (Like, have I trashed
something in my keyboard? :-(
'til next we type
HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse
<jesseE@aol.com>
<jEvans.El_segundo@xerox.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 02:38 CST
From: trimper@edsi.plexus.com (Greg Trimper)
Subject: Mac Aquarium kit? Where Can I get?
I have a mac plus shell that I want to turn into an aquarium to put in
my boss' office. It's an attempt to show him a good use for Mac Pluses.
I've heard them discussed on the net. Now where can I get one?
Greg Trimper trimper@edsi.plexus.com
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 93 17:36:52 GMT
From: josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes)
Subject: Mac as Xterm at home? (Q)
Here is a question we've been kicking around in the campus
mac newsgroup; I thought I would ask the larger mac communtiy
what they think.
I have a IIcx, mono, 8 M RAM, still running 6.0.something.
At work, however, I use a sparc station. I'm wondering how
much hardware I will need to purchase to make the mac into
a bearable x terminal at home. Suggestions so far include
the fastest modem possible (currently that seems to be 14.4K),
a three-button mouse, a SLIP connection across the modem (but
what will I need to do that? What sort of software supports
it? MacTCP?), and MacX.
Two questions: What hardware/software requirements will I have?
Has anyone done this themselves, and is it at all bearable or
does the serial line make it hopelessly slow?
Please e-mail responses; I will summarize if there is sufficient
interest. Thanks in advance!
Josh Hayes, josh@pogo.cqs.washington.edu
--
Josh Hayes, Quantitative Sciences HR-20 U of Washington
josh@pogo.cqs.washington.edu 206 543-5004
Scalp 'em, Tantric! Groovy, Kemosabe.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 01:09:51 -0800
From: park@netcom.com (Bill Park)
Subject: MacDraw contact sheet maker?
A friend of mine is going nuts trying to find MacDraw-generated
figures to put into his scientific papers and reports, among the
hundreds he has on file. He keeps all the figures from a given
document in a single MacDraw file, one figure per page.
He would like to find a program that displays (and prints, if
possible) a contact sheet with multiple reduced-size (but clear)
images of each page in a MacDraw file. Ideally, it should be able to
display the images from multiple MacDraw files simultaneously.
Tom Bereiter's excellent freeware program, ImageCatalog, will do this
for MacPaint, PICT, and GIF files, but it doesn't handle
MacDraw-format files. It would be too inconvenient/disc-consuming for
my friend to generate and store on-line a PICT file for each of his
MacDraw files so he could use ImageCatalog. And even then, maybe
ImageCatalog would only show the image of the first page in each file.
He would have to store both formats because converting a MacDraw file
to a PICT file loses some information (all the extra MacDraw-specific
structuring information such as object groupings). Therefore, you
can't convert back and get the same MacDraw file that you started
with.
Thanks, oh great Net Mind,
Bill Park
=========
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 09:22:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Albertson <ta@seattleu.edu>
Subject: Mac GUI front ends for AT&T Mail, EasyLink, or MCI Mail?
Hi,
Does anybody know of any GUI fronts ends for AT&T Mail, EasyLink, or
MCI Mail?
Please reply to me directly and I'll summarize.
Thanks,
Todd
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 14:54:21 EST
From: "James A. Connolly" <CZRT@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Mac TCP/IP available where?
Can anyone tell me where Mac TCP/IP is available (via anon. ftp)?
I have a Quadra using ethernet (10base-T) connecting to the internet.
Does this setup require anything special in the way of TCP/IP?
Is there anything else I should be collecting (software-wise)? I hate
finding that "one piece is missing" when setting up new hardware.
....James
CZRT@MusicA.McGill.CA phone (514) 398-6229 fax (514) 398-3797
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 10:40:24 -0800
From: Rex Sanders <rex@octopus.wr.usgs.gov>
Subject: Mactcp/Q700 and builtin ether (A)
(Problem description of Quadra 700, built-in Ethernet, and MacTCP showing
ONLY Ethernet, not LocalTalk icon)
Wow - I just spent more than 8 hours not quite solving this problem. I
still haven't got the internal Ethernet working, but AppleTalk and MacTCP
work over LocalTalk again. After MANY iterations of re-installing things,
this magic sequence seems to work reliably - DO NOT CHANGE THE ORDER:
1 - Open "System" file, copy all sounds & fonts to another file for safe
keeping.
2 - Zap PRAM a couple of times for good luck
3 - Restart on Disk Tools floppy
4 - Remove "System", "MacTCP", "MacTCP DNR", "MacTCP Prep", and anything
network related in the "Control Panels" and "Extensions" folders, from the
hard disk.
5 - Using System 7.0.1 floppy set, "Easy Install" new system software.
6 - Using TuneUp 1.1.1 floppy, install TuneUp software.
7 - Get fresh copy of MacTCP 1.1 and drop on System Folder.
8 - Open MacTCP and configure properly. The LocalTalk icon should be
there!
9 - Clean up the mess of resetting 32 bit memory, re-installing fonts &
sounds, etc.
Still don't know why the internal Ethernet stopped working - was working
for a couple of days with both AppleTalk and MacTCP before everything
network-related went haywire.
I've stopped struggling with this beast for a while - Ethernet can wait.
If anyone has other clues or answers, please let me know.
-- Rex Sanders, US Geological Survey
rex@octopus.wr.usgs.gov
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 13:45:54 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: MacWeek Subscription
The address is: Customer Service, MacWEEK, c/o JCI, POB 1766, Riverton,
NJ 08077-7366; 609-461-2100. The international airmail rate is $300
per year. Ouch! See if you qualify for a free subscription - assuming
they give them to overseas customers. There's a MacWEEK forum on
Compuserv, ZMC:MACWEEK. They also have an internet address, macweek.com
if I remember correctly, but I don't know what user-id. Try "macweek"?
Graeme Forbes
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 04:36:38 +0000
From: ptp1@cornell.edu (Patrick T. Pruyne)
Subject: MacWEEK Subscription Address (A)
>From the MacWEEK vol. 7 (6) 02.08.93 infobar:
"Direct subscription inquiries to:
Customer Service Department
MacWEEK
c/o JCI
P.O. Box 1766
Riverton New Jersey 08077-7366
(609) 461-2100
Single copy price (incl. postage) $6
One year subscription rate: U.S. $99, Canada/Mexico U.S. $175,
International: U.S. $300 (airmail). All orders must be prepaid."
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 08:12:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" <anthonyg@tenet.edu>
Subject: MacWorld Awards Survey & FullWrite
Howdy,
I too have used FullWrite Professional and think that currently there
is no equal to it out on the market today. It offers ease of use, a very
good outliner and sound as part of the document. However, Borland owning
all rights to the product has prevented it from offering any other
improvements to the word processor market. Currently, I use MacWrite II
in conjunction with FullWrite. And I only use MacWrite II because it is a
product that is still being supported. I long for the day when FullWrite
will finally be set free to be improved and developed.
I am sure that all of you Word 5.x lovers can sympathise. Where would
that product be today if Borland owned it before 5.x?
Anthony F. Gaudiano II
SFASU Apple Student Rep.
Applelink: ST0503
Internet: Z_GAUDIANOAF@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU
Tenet: anthonyg@formby.tenet.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 11:34:02 CST
From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Memory and DW Drivers con't
Hi, Marc. I don't have HP's number or address with me, but I'll bring
it tomorrow and send it to you.
Re your problems, yes, it's clear several people are having similar
problems. (See my post in this Info-mac and other folks' posts in the
last two or three volumes.) I'd just like to add a comment to your
message--the problem is not the HP background printing, because I'm
not using it and never have. (Is there a quote there? 'Are you now, or
have you ever been...';))
And yes, in addition to the stack/heap errors I've been boring every-
one with, I have also experienced the crash upon cancelling printing
(in my case, of course, with Command-period rather than through the
print monitor's dialog).
I'm getting ticked off about this. But at least I have the older
drivers to fall back on...
Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 15:39:25 CST
From: jemian@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Pete Jemian)
Subject: Menuette 1.1 control panel : Comments
In infomacv11-036, rmoran@wiley.csusb.edu writes that
"the standard menu extends 130 cm from..."
That's some kind of monitor! Where you'd get it?
Menuette may be a good product but where can one get a
1.3 meter monitor?
:)
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 10:50:03 +0100
From: in1435@nlh520.nlh.no (gisle.totland)
Subject: Miracle pianosystem
I concider purcasing the Miracle piano by mailorder. I have no chance to see
nor
hear it myself (i live in Norway), so please send me your experopwhith this
thi
ng.
regards Gisle Totland
gisle.totland@stud.nlh.no
------------------------------
Date: 15 Feb 1993 12:28:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: RDOHERTY@Gems.VCU.EDU
Subject: Modems and a Mac SE
Dear Readers:
I have a Mac SE 2.5/60/6.0.8 and I am about to take the plunge and
purchase a modem. I have pretty much settled on the Supra V.32bis 14.4/14.4
but I have a few questions for the net.
1. What is the current best price from the various mail order
outlets and are there any particular dealers which I should
stay away from?
2. Can I dial up my school's VAX and Gopher or Fetch items
directly to my Mac or am I limited to running an FTP session
on the VAX and then downloading the files from the VAX to
my home Mac? What software (extentions, scripts, ect.) would
I need to make this possible (if at all) ? (My only route for
internet access is through the VAX.)
3. Is this modem too much for my Mac? I remember a post many
digests back concerning a gentleman whose SE was having
trouble keeping up with the incoming data at high speeds.
Will I need to limit the upper rate I can connect with until
I can upgrade to a 950? (Well, maybe a Centris ;) )
Please reply directly to me and I will summarize to the digest. I
Please reply directly to me and I will summarize to the digest.
Thank you in advance for any help!
Don Doherty
Medical
Medical College of Virginia
rdoherty@gems.vcu.edu
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Date: 16 Feb 1993 17:58:10 GMT
From: William Shirley <ws15@cornell.edu>
Subject: MPW Fortran?
Which is best?
I am about to enter the world of MPW by porting a large amount of Fortran
code to the Macintosh. The code needs to stay in FORTRAN (rather than be
converted to C) so that it can be easily supported. I know that the the
question of 'which is the best FORTRAN compiler?' has come up before. I
would like to find out which is currently generally considered to be the
best.
Of the two MPW FORTRAN Compilers (Language Systems and Absoft),
which:
1. is less bugie?
2. is easier to use?
3. has the better support tools (debugger)?
4. has the better manuals?
5. has the better telephone support?
6. has more language extensions?
7. is faster at compiling?
8. produces faster more optimized code?
9. supports math coprocessors in line?
10. has special features?
Please include the version numbers of the compilers that you are familiar
with so that we are not comparing old apples and new oranges.
Thank you very much.
Please respond to me and I will summerize.
William Shirley
ws15@cornell.edu
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 14:10:44 CST
From: fiel@idnsun.gpct.vanderbilt.edu (David Fiel)
Subject: Nuntius doesn't work on Quadra?
I use Nuntius 1.1.1d17 with MacTCP 1.1.1 without any problems. I run it
with 32-bit on, no VM, 16-bit color. Can you use Fetch or Eudora? This
will check to see if it's your MacTCP or network connection. Good luck.
David Fiel * fiel@idnsun.gpct.vanderbilt.
By the way, it's a 950 :-)
------------------------------
Date: 16 Feb 1993 07:42:11 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: OmegaSane MacWeek Info
OmegaSane MacWeek Info
Last week's MacWeek magazine had a blurb in Ric Ford's MacInTouch column
(p.69)
on the OmegaSANE patch. Here's the blurb:
Omega sanity.
The hack for enabling Omega SANE (see MacWeek, Jan. 25) created some
confusion among readers.
The first problem is the ROM version number, which means different
things in different utilities. Look for a utility, such as the current
version of TattleTale, 1.5.4, that displays a hexadecimal number ($67C
for IIci, $178 for SE/30, IIcx, IIx). A ROM version such as "124," given
by MacEnvy and older versions of TattleTale, is something confusingly
different.
The second trick is in using ResEdit. To add Omega SANE in the ROv#
resources, select the last row of asterisks, then choose Add New Field
from a menu. Next, type PACK in the Resource Type box and type "4" in
the Resource ID box.
I haven't needed to install the patch ..... yet! So I don't know if this
was as difficult to implement with the instructions given on Info-Mac.
Just thought it might be useful to somebody. FYI! :-)
Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 09:13 MET
From: PATRICK GROENEN <GROENEN@rulfsw.LeidenUniv.nl>
Subject: Omega SANE resources: where to get them?
Recently there has been some discussion about omega SANE resources, that
are not included in system 7.1. Fortunately, someday posted a
description of how to get them into 7.1 yourself with ResEdit. The
description says that the missing resources can be found in sys 7.0.x,
PACK resources, ID=4 and 5. However, I can not find them in my old sys
7.0.
Does anaybody know where I can find them (maybe download)?
Patrick Groenen, The Netherlands
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 10:20:07 +0100
From: Jean-Claude Arnouil <arnouilj@apo.esiee.fr>
Subject: Passport Producer demo needed (Q)
Dear netters,
In the last Macworld issue there is an advertisement about the Passport
Producer multi-media software where we can read:
"Domestic and International customers can download a free evaluation copy
from AppleLink (Updates & Demos) or Compuserve (Multimedia Forum)"
I do not have access to those bbs, so could someone download this demo for
me and post it on this newsgroup ???
Many thanks,
Jean-Claude Arnouil email: arnouilj@apo.esiee.fr
Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique
BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 15:20:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "Erik K. Witt" <ew3d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: PC ImagewriterLQ driver
I have an Apple Imagewriter LQ which I've been using with my Macintosh.
I'd like to be able to use the printer with an IBM compatible running
Windows, but I haven't found a printer driver for the Imagewriter LQ.
Is there a printer driver available for Windows or DOS? Does anyone
have a similar setup?
Thanks!
-Erik
PS- please reply directly to me, since I may miss your posting on the
b-board.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 14:56:50 EST
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: Presentation ideas
Hi!
I am trying to assist my father in a setup he is trying to do in his office.
He
owns an advertising agency and is in need of a way to display PowerPoint
slides
in his boardroom next to the monitor that his VTR is connected to. He tried
one
of the video projector units and found it overly cumbersome and expensive.
I have come up with a few more suggestions for him, and I am soliciting
comments over the next few days.
1. Radius 24-bit (or 8-bit) video card and the Mitsubishi 39 inch monitor.
This is a VERY expensive solution, but is closest to what he wants, and
he would be willing to do this if it is the best choice.
2. Overhead projector panel (one of the self-lighting ones, maybe.) I'm
concerned here about image quality, but I would suggest he look at it
if the quality is good and price is OK.
3. Feeding the computer's video to an RGB-NTSC convertor, and just buying
a 37" Sony TV with A/V inputs (S-Video in too, maybe). This would be
as good (I think) as #1, and is the best choice if the quality of the
signal after conversion does not suffer, but I have not tried this so
I don't know.
4. Digitizing the videotape to QuickTime and using one monitor. I don't
think he'll opt for this because of the limitations of QuickTime (the
likely CPU will be an LCII or IIsi).
I'm inclined to suggest #1 or #3, but he wanted to make sure that someone
would
not come along in a month and say, "Oh, that was dumb. You should have done
xxx
instead." Comments, anyone?
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 09:04:51 +0100
From: andersw%vinga.hum.gu.se@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Anders Wahlin)
Subject: Printer protection!
Hay!
We have a few LaserWriters connected to a public network. When a person has
been used a printer he/she writes his/hers name on a paper and after a few
month we send this person a bill. Now, 40-60% of thoose persons who are
using the printers aren't writing their names on the paper. This costs us
1000-1500SKr/2 months (or about 200-300$/2 mounths). I'm looking for a
program that can help us.
Please mail to:
andersw@hum.gu.se
Thanx.
**************************
* Anders Wahlin
* (andersw@hum.gu.se)
* G|teborgs universitet
* Hum Fak:s Dataservice
* 412 98 G|teborg
* 031/7734550
***************************
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 14:24:53 -0500
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Replace LC040 with 040 on Centris 610, 650
Tony Huang writes:
>My preliminary information is that chip-for-chip replacement is possible
>for the Centris 650, but NOT for any Centris 610. I reserve the right to be
>wrong on this matter, though.
Ok, why? Both machines have the CPU socketed to the motherboard, and
the two chips are pin compatible. So what reason does your information
have about why this isn't possible for the C610?
-Hades
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 10:19:23 GMT
From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Subject: ResEdit code documetation type?
I've just downloaded the upgrade/replacement code editor (v2.1.2) from
ftp.apple.com, and the documentation is type ONLN/HLX2, which I can't
read and am not familiar with.
Could someone please email me and tell me what these files are, what I
need to read them, and where I can find it?
Regards
Lloyd Wood
L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 09:06:43 PST
From: tlh9d6e@panam2.panam.edu (Terry L. Hartman)
Subject: Retrospect Remote and Restarting Mac
We use Retrospect and Retrospect Remote on our department's File Server. I
am looking for a way to reboot the Server after Retrospect has finished
Remotely backing up other machines on our net.
I would also like to be able to have it reboot with the Microsoft Mail
disabled (equivalent of holding down the "M" key). If not I will settle
for the reboot after the backup and hold down the "M" key myself when
starting up.
Any and all suggestions accepted. Reply to the list or to myself directly.
Terry L. Hartman
Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
U.T. - Pan American
tlh9d6e@panam1.panam.edu
terry@bandw.panam.edu
thartman@tenet.edu
pitbull@mindvox.phantom.com
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Date: 16 Feb 1993 10:04:27 -0600
From: Chip_Benowitz@fourd.com
Subject: SAKA Awards '93
/* The purpose of this list is for all of us users out here to show what we
like, software, hardware, anything. I started this list about a month ago, and
though I didn't get many responses, I got a few. I would now like to share
with
all of you what some of us sent in as the best of the best. Although this list
is being posted now, I will continue to repost it, monthly, with new entrees
sent in. Here are the responses that I received... -Chip
Benowitz */
ZTerm for best Telecommunications
Compact Pro for best compression/encryption.
SpaceSaver for best hard drive space saving.
Stuffit Expander for best general expansion.
MCL 2.0 for best developement environment.
THINK C for best C compiler.
QuickDex for best personal info manager.
DeSEA for best .sea-to-archive'ing.
Drop-Change Utility for best type/crea changing.
Drop-Router for best file organizer.
Teachtext for best text editor.
Ray Dream Designer for best ray tracing.
Magnet for best remote file management.
Address Book for best phone/address keeping.
SolarianII and Maelstrom for best action games.
Macintosh LCIII for best beginners' computer.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 11:38:45 GMT
From: John McKinley <jdm16@phx.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Single copies only (A)
I had a number of replies concerning ways to limit the number of copies
printed
on to a LaserWriter. Thanks to everyone who replied. The way I did it in the
end was by setting all of the dimensions of the EditText item which contains
the number of copies to zero. Voila, it's no longer possible to edit that
parameter. I'm sorry, but I've forgotten who suggested this.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 93 20:26:32 PST
From: anthony@cco.caltech.edu (Lawrence Anthony)
Subject: some questions regarding apple's new ergonomic keyboard
Keywords: keyboard, ISO, ANSI, apple desktop bus, ADB
i have a few questions regarding the new ergonomic keyboard for the
macintosh, which i hope someone will be able to answer.
1) the spec sheet for this keyboard mentions 2 different variants,
ANSI and ISO. what are the differences between these two?
2) the ISO keyboard seems to have one more key than the ANSI version.
what might this extra key be? are the other keys and their locations
the same on the two types of keyboards?
3) is the ISO version available for purchase in the U.S.?
4) the ANSI version of the keyboard has the "B" key on the left half
and the "6" key on the right half of the main keyboard. some of us
(self included) were taught to touch-type the "B" key with the _right_
index finger and the "6" key with the _left_ index finger. it would
be nice to have a version of the ergonomic keyboard that accommodated
this. would the ISO keyboard do this?
thanks in advance for your answers.
lawrence anthony
lza@ulysses.caltech.edu
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 17:30:22 GMT
From: "J. Rossi" <jr10@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: Stack on ancient greek and hebrew
Hello Netters
For those reading these lines who are into languages, would you know
a stack (or several of course) dealing with ancient greek and hebrew.
I've heard of a stack called "it's Greek to me" supposed to be shareware
but I don't have any extra information on that.
The purpose of these stacks would be
1- to give the basics of the language
or
2- to provide the text of the old and/or new testaments
Any hint appreciated (the UK archie comes empty handed)
Thanks
Francois JR10@LE.AC.UK
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 13:38:15 PST
From: driear@hal.com (Joe Driear)
Subject: System 7 & postscript files (Q)
I'm sure this is a FAQ, but I just upgraded from 6.0.8 to 7.0.1 and my
postscript files have grown from 70K to 340K. I remember reading about
this when S7 came out as being due to TrueType fonts, but I've trashed all
of them out of my extensions folder and removed all the big fonts installed
in my system file (which I assume were TrueType) except Geneva & Chicago
and I've still got 340K postscript files. Can someone give me some
pointers on how to put them on a diet? (I know it's not the laserwriter
driver since 6.0.8 and 7.0.1 use the same driver and laserprep.)
--joe (driear@hal.com)
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 18:47 EST
From: "FELIX KREISEL (617)253-8625" <KREISEL@YSKRA.PFC.MIT.EDU>
Subject: System 7.1 and WorldScript Extensions (A)
Hi Charlie. I would appreciate detailed instructions about overwriting both
the System Chicago and the MS Word Chicago with my 8-bit bilingual font.
Thanks, Felix
The opinions are my own. Felix Kreisel (617)253-8625
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 22:32:51 -0700
From: WANDERER_DAVID/HPBOI1_02@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Subject: White Knight & HP Terminal Settings
Was wondering if anyone knows how to congirue White Knight
to emulate the proper settings fopr HP 3000's?
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1993 18:41:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Word 5.1 Find File Hack
If you use the Word 5.1 find file command and are tired of previewing the
file's contents in a tiny little area you can hack the Find File command
with ResEdit to give yourself more viewing space. Here's how.
<Insert usual do this only on a copy warning here>
Open the Find File file with ResEdit. It is usually inside the Word
Commands folder.
You will see a directory of resources. Double click on the DLOG resources.
Open DLOG #129. This shows a miniature of the dialog you want to change.
Double click on the miniature to open up a full size representation of
the dialog.
Reposition and resize the dialog window to span the entire width of
your monitor.
Note the grey rectangle on the middle right of the dialog. It is a
medium size area which represents where the contents of files are
displayed. Resize it to fit your newly enlarge dialog window.
Save your changes.
Try out the Find File command inside Word. You'll be able to see
more of the file's contents at a time.
Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 15:07:31 GMT
From: bebb@uk.ate.slb.com (Malcolm Bebb)
Subject: Word Mac List
Can anyone tell me if the Word-Mac mailing list is still alive? I've
had no response for quite a while now.
I did have some mailer problems getting the list, which makes it difficult
to work out what's happened.
Thanks,
Malcolm bebb%ukfca1@sjs.ate.slb.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 12:30:00 -0500
From: "PETER K. ZEITLER" <pkz0@lehigh.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: pkz0
From: pkz0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER K. ZEITLER)
Subject: (Q) Restart/Shutdown weirdness...
Message-ID: <1993Feb15.172954.69083@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 17:29:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
We're having trouble with MacTCP initializing properly on a Mac IIcx running
System 7, a pile of INITS, and VersaTermPro. It's probably an INIT conflict
and this is all the subject of a prior post. But one thing that's fallen
out of this is that we only have trouble on bootup. If you restart, MacTCP
loads and our problems vanish. If you shutdown and then boot, *poof* MacTCP
doesn't load...until you restart. Having to boot and then restart makes for a
baroque way to start the day...
I naively thought that <Restart> and <Shutdown> accomplished the same thing.
Guess not, huh?
Bamboozled,
--
Peter K. Zeitler
Associate Professor
Earth & Environmental Sciences
31 Williams Drive
Lehigh University
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3188 USA
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